{"id":85102,"date":"2025-07-29T15:21:37","date_gmt":"2025-07-29T13:21:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/?p=85102"},"modified":"2025-07-29T15:21:38","modified_gmt":"2025-07-29T13:21:38","slug":"the-visa-restrictions-did-feel-a-bit-like-a-declaration-of-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/en\/english\/the-visa-restrictions-did-feel-a-bit-like-a-declaration-of-war\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cThe visa restrictions did feel a bit like a declaration of war\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Impressions from 2025 Annual Conference of NAFSA: Association of International Educators<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>In late May, Dr. Johannes M\u00fcller, Head of the Global Office (GO), and Cathrin Rieger, Head of International Partnerships at the GO, traveled to San Diego to attend the NAFSA Annual Conference. News of new student visa restrictions imposed by the U.S. administration reached participants of the networking event for experts in international higher education cooperation and exchange on opening day. In conversation with UniReport, they share impressions from their trip and provide an assessment on how current developments impact academic cooperation and freedom.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What goals did you pursue at NAFSA?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cathrin Rieger (C.R.):<\/strong> Maintaining and initiating partnerships and networking with our global peers \u2013 i.e. the people who organize, manage, and develop international student exchanges and university partnerships worldwide. NAFSA brings professionals from all over the world together \u2013 this year around 8,000 participants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Dr. Johannes M\u00fcller (J.M.):<\/strong> I had the opportunity to participate in two panels. Together with colleagues from Tel Aviv University, I co-organized a session on \u201cInternationalization in Times of Crisis\u201d, and I also spoke at the \u201cSymposium on Leadership: Today\u2019s Refugees, Tomorrow\u2019s Students and Changemakers\u201d \u2013 a topic especially close to my heart and one that Goethe University has long been committed to.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/hotel-del-coronado-c-johannes-mueller.jpg\" alt=\"Hotel del Coronado \u00a9 Joahnnes M\u00fcller\" class=\"wp-image-84936\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/hotel-del-coronado-c-johannes-mueller.jpg 650w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/hotel-del-coronado-c-johannes-mueller-300x208.jpg 300w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/hotel-del-coronado-c-johannes-mueller-500x346.jpg 500w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/hotel-del-coronado-c-johannes-mueller-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Just under 4 kilometers from the San Diego Convention Center (left), the venue of this year\u2019s NAFSA conference, lies the Hotel del Coronado \u2013 famous from the classic film \u201cSome Like It Hot\u201d. The announcement of visa restrictions on the opening day of the conference also heated up the atmosphere inside the halls: \u201cTo the conference\u2019s participants it felt a bit like a declaration of war.\u201d \u00a9 Johannes M\u00fcller<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"650\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/san-diego-convention-center-c-johannes-mueller.jpg\" alt=\"San Diego Convention Center \u00a9 Johannes M\u00fcller\" class=\"wp-image-84935\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/san-diego-convention-center-c-johannes-mueller.jpg 650w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/san-diego-convention-center-c-johannes-mueller-300x208.jpg 300w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/san-diego-convention-center-c-johannes-mueller-500x346.jpg 500w, https:\/\/aktuelles.uni-frankfurt.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/san-diego-convention-center-c-johannes-mueller-18x12.jpg 18w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">\u00a9 Johannes M\u00fcller<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>The same day NAFSA 2025 opened its doors, the U.S. administration announced new student visa restrictions, including the suspension of new visa interviews. In addition, a full entry ban was imposed on citizens from 12countries, and a partial ban on citizens from seven more. How was this news received? [<em>Editor\u2019s note: This interview took place on June 11, 2025. The restrictions on student visas have since been eased and focus on applicants\u2019 social media profiles.<\/em>]<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J.M.:<\/strong> The timing was definitely interesting, to say the least. To the conference\u2019s participants, it felt a bit like a declaration of war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C.R.:<\/strong> Of course, the restrictions dominated many conversations \u2013 depending on the session and conversation, they either cast a shadow or fueled spirited discussions. My general sense was that no one wanted to allow anything or anyone to \u201crain on the parade\u201d of this important and carefully prepared event. We could sense this spirit of \u201cNow more than ever!\u201d time and again. In general, U.S colleagues are trying to make all kinds of different international student mobility formats possible \u2013 some because of and some in spite of the uncertainty \u2013, but most in the hopes that the situation will improve. Whether and how this quintessentially American optimism, often paired with a \u201clet\u2019s get it done\u201d attitude, will prevail is something the coming weeks and months will tell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>There are those who call for an active recruitment campaign aimed at U.S. researchers and potential future international exchange students. Was this also discussed at NAFSA?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>C.R.:<\/strong> In my experience, there\u2019s a general unspoken understanding in international higher education cooperation \u2013 especially among partners \u2013 not to take advantage of others or \u201cpoach\u201d during difficult times. But of course, many researchers and students originally headed for the U.S. might now start looking elsewhere. While this certainly creates possibilities for European universities, it is important to approach this matter with the necessary sensitivity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J.M.: <\/strong>Recruiting U.S. researchers on a large scale cannot be considered the responsibility of any one single university. In addition to lacking the necessary recruitment or welcome programs, we also face an uncertain financial future, as the ongoing negotiations around the Hessian Higher Education Pact show.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Despite the erratic nature of their announcements, recent developments will likely have long-term consequences for scientific collaboration and academic freedom.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>J.M.:<\/strong> The visa rules do not affect direct academic exchange, which has not changed much under \u201cTrump 2.0\u201d \u2013 if you choose to ignore the fact that citizens of some countries can no longer enter the U.S. Since Germany isn\u2019t on that list, there is no direct impact on our bilateral relations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There is a new dimension as far as research content is concerned. I am referring here to the exclusion of certain topics from eligibility for state funding. Climate research, minority-related social sciences, and minority rights law are no longer supported by the Trump administration and will in future have to be carried out elsewhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Trump administration\u2019s policies also indirectly affect our ability to fund U.S. research. Whereas aspects of DEI \u2013 diversity, equity, inclusion \u2013 are now an exclusion criterion for U.S. funding, here in Germany, no grant can be submitted without addressing DEI. This applies to any and all research, including on forward-looking fields like Artificial Intelligence. We can\u2019t, won\u2019t and most importantly don\u2019t want to change that because of the U.S. \u2013 but it means we can only bring American partners on board in a limited capacity.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Impressions from 2025 Annual Conference of NAFSA: Association of International Educators In late May, Dr. Johannes M\u00fcller, Head of the Global Office (GO), and Cathrin Rieger, Head of International Partnerships 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